Thursday, September 18, 2014

Update 18 Sept 2014 Report from the Russian Engineers Association confirm Malaysian Airlines MH17 was shot down by Ukraine fighter-jet.

New findings confirm Malaysian Airlines MH17 was shot down by Ukraine fighter-jet.

Update 18 Sept 2014

Report from the Russian Engineers Association confirm Malaysian Airlines MH17 was shot down by Ukraine fighter-jet.

rus report MH-17Russian experts’ analysis shows that Dutch MH17-report was rigged. Links to the report in English here. For the report in original  Rusian, go here. Links provided by The Oceania Saker, via @oukita2. Here a news video on the Russian report, with English texts:

Update 10 Sept 2014

NYT Lies . . .See NYT article in this link
This was said by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on deceiving Western media reports on Ukraine:
this was said by PCR

Update 9 Sept 2014

Comment by The Professors’ Blog on “Summary of Findings” published in the Preliminary Report [Comment and Link to the full report in Pdf., at section XI at the bottom of this page]. For instance:

fasciimile Preliminary ReportThe Report says: “The damage observed in the forward section of the aircraft appears to indicate that the aircraft was penetrated by a large number of high-energy objects from outside the aircraft. It is likely that this damage resulted in a loss of structural integrity of the aircraft, leading to an in-flight break up.”

THAT, the last formulation in the transcript above, is the plausible explanation of the fragmentation of the aircraft (causing the rests were found scattered on the ground), and NOT that the “destruction of the aircraft already in the air” would have been “obviously” the result of a surface-to-air missile impact. I have to note that “Western” media have not reproduced that last sentence in the news reports. An illustration here below:

DW: “Damage observed on the forward fuselage and cockpit section of the aircraft appears to indicate that there were impacts from a large number of high-energy objects from outside the aircraft.” Period.
MH17 news2Click to enlarge

Media sources of graphic above:

BBC, “MH17 crash: Dutch experts say numerous objects hit plane“; CBC News, “Video | Malaysia Airlines MH17: Michael Bociurkiw talks about being first at the crash site” ; Gobal Research, Calif. “The Downing of Malaysia Flight 17: Sinister Pretext for War with Russia“; Photo: NBAAI

Meanwhile:

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source counter-punchGo to the Counter Punch article, “The Downing of Malaysia Flight 17 – Sinister Pretext for War with Russia” by Mike Whitney, 4 Sept 2014.
”Reader-comments to my July 31st article, First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukraine Government Shot that Plane Down, have provided links and leads to independent additional confirmatory evidence, to such an extent that I now feel confident enough to say that the evidence on this matter is, indeed, ’conclusive’.” / Eric Zuesse, in: Evidence Is Now Conclusive: 2 Ukrainian Government SU-25 Fighter-Jets Did Shoot Down that Malaysian Airliner. No ‘Buk’ Missile Ground-Shot Was Involved. Washingtonblog.com, 2 August 2014.
Update 22 August 2014:
dnkiklturInterviewed by the Swedish TV, Foreign Minister Carl Bildt stated in absolute terms, “Of course Russian separatists were behind the shooting down of the Malaysian MH17″. “Of course” Bildt did not provide any evidence for his xenophobic statement.  A new posted comment on author Johan Croneman’s analysis in DN of 17 August, published at Bildt: “Of course Russian separatists downed Malaysian MH-17″. No Swedish media asked him for his evidence.
Update 7 August 2014:

Breaking: A Malaysia main paper reports on US-experts’ findings which indicate the MH17 was downed by an air-to-air missile attack, finished by cannon fire. Malaysia asking, Did Ukraine Military Do It? Click on link  for the full article “US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft“.

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A followed story based in the cited experts findings, in link below:
title blogg2Please read these links successively, as they provide enhanced evidence built on analyses of previous and new emerging findings.

UPDATED LINKS 7 August 2014 (See Part IV):

1) John Kerry Says the Rebels Downed MH17 In Ukraine. How Can He Know? Questions For John Kerry. By  (Ian56789).
2) The evidence is building that the Kiev military shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 in Ukraine (17 July 2017). By  (Ian56789).

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Professorsblogg translation of SU-25 tech. performance referred in the German article cited by P. Heisenko above:
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Article by Prof. Anders Romesj√∂: Who shot down the Malaysian Airline MH17? [Swedish]
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Updated links, 7 August 2014:
Author:  By  (Ian56789).
1) John Kerry Says the Rebels Downed MH17 In Ukraine. How Can He Know? Questions For John Kerry (21 July 2014)
2) The evidence is building that the Kiev military shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 in Ukraine (17 July 2017)
Source for the two links above: http://ian56.blogspot.se
profetweet#MH17

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Updated links, 4 September 2014:
Author:  By Mike Whitney, in Counter Punch.
The Downing of Malaysia Flight 17 – Sinister Pretext for War with Russia

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Updated links, 9 September 2014:

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Commenting summary of findings of the Preliminary report (link above, go to page 29 for Summary).

By M. Ferrada de Noli
“The last radio transmissions made by Dnipropetrovs’k air traffic control centre to flight
MH17 began at 13.20:00 hrs and ended at 13.22:02 hrs. The crew did not respond to
these transmissions.” |  “The last radio transmission made by the crew began at 13.19:56 hrs and ended at13.19:59 hrs.”
Why Control called MH 17 by the same moment, or immediately after it was hit (communications interrupted) and not before?. And most importtant, why the conversations are not transcribed? Ten days before the Report was published, the Russian Deputy Minister of Defence, Anatoly Antonov, demanded anew the transcripts to be published by the authoriies with acces to the materials. Why they have neglected this relevant request, while it is absolutely (technically) feasible to do it?
“According to radar data three commercial aircraft were in the same Control Area as flight MH17 at the time of the occurrence. All were under control of Dnipro Radar. At 13.20 hrs the distance between the closest aircraft and MH17 was approximately 30 km.”
 If there were other commercial aircraft in the radio of 30 kilometers fro MH17,  it is preposterous to assume that the Rebels wished to down just MH17 and no the others. Or phrasing it in another way, why would not the Rebels downed the others aircraft too?
And why is not any mention of the Russia Minister of Defence reports on that they had established that one Ukraine jet-fighter was in the vicinity of MH17?
Damage observed on the forward fuselage and cockpit section of the aircraft appears to indicate that there were impacts from a large number of high-energy objects from outside the aircraft.
That rather correspond to powerful machine gun of the type used by the S-25 cannons.
The pattern of damage observed in the forward fuselage and cockpit section of the aircraft was not consistent with the damage that would be expected from any known failure mode of the aircraft, its engines or systems.
That clearly indicate that the fire was directed at the cockpit, and that the communications interrupted with the killing of the crew.
Finally:
The damage observed in the forward section of the aircraft appears to indicate that
the aircraft was penetrated by a large number of high-energy objects from outside
the aircraft. It is likely that this damage resulted in a loss of structural integrity of the
aircraft, leading to an in-flight break up.
THIS, the last formulation in the transcript above, is the explanation of the fragmentation of the aircraft, and NOT that it would have been the result of a land-to-air missile.

1 comment:

  1. The plane could have been flown by US black op personnel. The indiscriminate bombing of East Ukraine looks too psycho to be be local West v East. Its mercenary style. CIA have an office in Kiev....
    Have any US pilots been spotted at the airbase?

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